Host: Haider Ali Shah
Guest: Amanullah Gulzar
Chapters:
0:00 intro
1:20 Pearl Harbour, Gulf of Tonkin and 9/11
7:28 Hijackings
10:05 Fear, wonder and political capital
12:21 NSA and the Patriot Act
15:38 How the government exploits fear
23:47 NSA prism program
29:49 Goray babu waapis ajao
32:15 Edward Snowden life story
47:31 Skeptics and anti conspiracy theorists
50:12 Glen Greenwald and the Snowden leaks
53:18 Snowden and Putin
55:00 How nations are built
57:16 USA vs ISI
1:03:21 Fear is the mind killer
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